Saturday, 28 July 2012

Relationships V Marriage - which one?

A lot of people go wrong in mate selection, because they seek marriage instead of relationship.

A relationship is a situation in which two people get along really well: like friends, like brother and sister and so on and so forth. You can have good and bad relationships in every aspect of your life, from work to family, to friends and in romantic relationships.

Now, where everything goes wrong is when we come to finding a mate "for marriage". Suddenly: the entire tick list changes - we begin to idealize what we want our married life and children's lives to be like, we set out a list of virtues that we would IDEALLY like (watch out for that word yeah, "ideally") and then instead of seeking out what would work for us, we seek out what we would ideally like.

Then it all goes wrong.

Because ideally we would also be different and so we pretend to ourselves that we can be our ideal and so our partner too should be our ideal when it comes to marriage and then we go and look for all of the wrong things.

If you love music and dancing, you need to find someone who (doesn't have to like music and dancing) but can appreciate and accept that you do. If you love reading and writing, you need to find someone (who doesn't have to like reading and writing) but appreciates and accepts that you do.

Now.

Up comes the marriage question and instead of finding a personality match, we look for an ideals match ...ideals (by the way) which have very little to do with our actual selves, and our actual lives.

You can see this by looking around at your friends and noticing that actually, you have very little in common with most of them. I'll use myself as an example - I am regarded as the "educated" one - in that, I love books, classical music, theatre, museums, country side. I like to holiday in 5 star hotels and I like to rough it in tents and camps. I am happy to throw myself off a cliff into water, and scuba and jump out of an aeroplane - I love excitement and adventure and I also like new and interesting things - whether that be a subject, a place or a person. I will be trotting along my life, happy as a lamb, and then suddenly, I will just bin the lot and start again - because I get bored.

My friends? Totally different. There is M, the English super soft pediatric dietician with a horrific dating background who loves babies and everything to do with them - same job and life for 10 years. There is C, the Jamaican 6 ft tall, 20 stone administrator who has no morals and is currently living on the breadline with no money having her third baby with man who hates her, has a wife already AND another mistress after having thrown in an uber successful finance career to be with him - she cant stop effing up her life for some reason, there is E, the Turkish solicitor, recently left career to become a primary school teacher of drama, lives with parents, getting married to English guy next year - really nice girl, no confidence, cant make decisions, A a Polish Accountant, married to a Moroccan, A is of exceptionally good moral character, ridiculously committed and reliable - trying for babies for last 3 years, recently trying IVF working hard to become a fully qualified accountant and start a family - never changed course in the whole time I have known her, J the English bubbly sales lady, business woman - living with partner for 20 years now, 1 daughter (by accident) loves to go out, get drunk and sing karaoke - extremely good person, extremely moral, her male partner (husband really after this many years), is ardent feminist, artsy - coffee shops and design work type - she is tremendously confident and good at making decisions, rarely breaks down, thrives on pressure, there is F (pakistani) the extremely religiously devoted 35 year old do-gooder - never married - always volunteering and doing good deeds, always rescuing someone in need - very shy and quiet, J (greek) the genius, physics major, recently turned computer developer - working for big firm, always looking for love - never finding one (well - actually, always finding one, but never finding one that is actually available) - currently in counseling to find out why this keeps happening, C (greek) the bisexual lab worker - seriously funny - laid back, takes whatever comes, has harsh tongue and evil wit! M (greek) - totally INSANE - stalks her boyfriends, and then gets into mad relationships with them - been in counseling for serious psychological issues for over 10 years - never had a job, M, (african from Ghana), business woman, married, mother of 2 - always trying to make her fledgling business work, never getting into the green - total workaholic - texts you at 1am, 2am with business ideas and asking you if you think she should pack it all in and start again - you say yes, then she gets upset with you and ignores it lol! Always thinking about work, M (african) the femme fatale), ridiculously sexual, goes through men as if they are socks - only dates married or otherwise involved men - is "strong one" but secretly soft and will never ever let you down - EVER.

Then there's family - who are too long to list here. I have nothing in common with any of them, and if you asked me to choose who my lifelong friends would be by looking at these people's profiles - I wouldn't choose a single one. But you know what? I get on with each and every one of them like a house on fire, because the one thing we do share is mutual appreciation, acceptance and support. Same goes for my family who are mad mix of tremendous success and abject failure, powerful morals and equally powerful immorality - but we love each other and we get on and we enjoy being in the same room.

When it comes to marriage - for some reason - we operate in a completely different way. We seek out an ideal tick list and what we get at the end of that process: is our tick list.

Don't look for a tick list!!! Don't look for a husband, and don't look for a wife - look for a relationship and when you find it: keep it.

Seriously, advice does not get better than this.

6 comments:

Sarah said...

I agree totally! Finding someone you are comfortable with - there is no systematic tick-list way of going about that. I'm coming to think that good communication, respect, flexibility and consideration are the essence of what makes a relationship work. Maybe the less of these things you have, the more "compatibility" you need to fall back on.

People who have very rigid ideas about how things should be and what they require in a partner, seem to be far less equipped for life's ups and downs, and miss out on a whole lot of discoveries and joys that can happen when you have an open mind and are prepared to accept and love someone as they are and value and treasure their different perspectives on things. I used to think I had been too compromising, allowed myself to be influenced too far. But that isn't the case. I have reached my limits at times. But my life is richer for not having been too black and white about who I am and what my life is about.

I have spent the past couple of years fixated with finding a partner, and it is all too easy to fall into the "shopping" mentality. I've finally found someone who I really get along well with, having fallen into the trap of a tickbox based relationship that was a total disaster, and realising that - exactly as you say - it is the guy I can be good friends with that I should be with, even if he doesn't tick all the boxes. And it is hitting me that the "finding someone" part is just the beginning, too... A successful relationship does not come pre-packaged in a box tied with a ribbon, it must be worked out, and it can be bloody hard work because we all have needs, fears and insecurities, and opening our hearts to someone makes us incredibly vulnerable. It makes you confront uncomfortable parts of yourself. All the more reason why it is best to base a relationship on true friendship! I love the whole concept of marriage as two people dedicated to working out their shared life, so far away from the Hollywood ideal "made for each other" type of thing, so gritty and real and messy... There is an almost miraculous happiness that comes out of it.

KittySigurdardottir. said...

Finding a lifemate is like finding a needle in a haystack and therefore impossible,I base this on my experience of living 58 years.And so I have a Dream for every man on earth,that God made a pefect woman for each one just right for just him and noone else,after all He made us and knows us better than we know ourselves and therefore knows exactly what our needs are,just imagine, she is an exact fit and meets all his needs as well as fulfills all his desires.But I do believe there has to be a backup plan and therfore another woman set aside to replace her just in case,because God gives all of us a free will to choose,and never forces us to marry anybody.But,I admit I'm a Dreamer with an amazing imagination and people think that I'm dillusunal and make everything up that I say,and that's OK by me,we all have our cross to bear.

Jasmine said...

@ Sarah Sarah! So nice to see you back on the scene (well...this scene over here that is lol!)

Wow - your words are like BAM! 100% sincere I can feel it! And I'm
so happy you had the courage to leave what wasn't working and go for happiness and that you've even found it!! You've got to guest post your wisdom on this for me Sarah, too many ladies stay in unhappy marriages for god-only-knows-why (I'm trying to figure it out myself).

It's true - I have been in a lot of relationships - some have ended in coupledom, some in friendship and one almost marriage and now one marriage. What I have found is that finding "a husband" is quite easy - youre so busy searching for these "key qualities" that you dont notice the guy is a narcissistic rageaholic with a serious greed issue. And when you're in a relationship, your so busy noticing how few of your ticks the guy fulfils that you don't notice he would jump in front of a bullet for you, thinks of you every second of every day and finds every irritating this about you absolutely delightful - and like a true dumbass you choose the husband over the relationship and spend the next few years wondering where it all went wrong!

And you know, I'm not the only woman who has come to this realisation - so many women choose a guy because of ridiculous reasons - "I thought he would make a good father", "I thought he would make a good husband", "he seemed like a good provider" - seriously ladies - it's the wrong way to make decisions xx

Jasmine said...

@Kitty - I think finding a lifemate is something that happens after a period of knowing someone: I think we slowly turn into lifemates (rather than being lifemates from the get go) :)

KittySigurdardottir. said...

I disagree with you on that,but agree that it's a RELATIONSHIP that counts not LOOKS like I used to think when it comes to lifetime mates,I've finally discoverd that after living for 58 years,anything but RELATINSHIP is horse manure and stinks.

Sarah said...

Haha, I'm still very much learning in all this... :) and I have questioned my past decisions a fair bit along the way. Things are never really black and white. As you say, you can become lifemates over time together, and I'm not sure there's a formula for calculating whether that will happen :)

Some level of compatibility in goals, values etc is probably helpful and even necessary. I think my marriage failed more because of problems in compatibility than because of problems in the relationship. But as you put it so well, you might end up with nothing *but* ticked boxes if that is all you focus on. Maybe the key is balance?

My email is wrestlingwithreligion@googlemail.com, by the way :) xxx